Can You See This?

Those of you in China, I’d like to ask of you a small favor: is the below link accessible in the PRC?

Country Rep0rts on Human R1ghts Practices: China

I’m doing a report on the opposing view of that (Human R1ghts Record of the US in 2005) in which Beijing rips apart America’s supposed hypocrisy in criticizing the human r1ghts of other nations in spite of its own. I feel it’s worth knowing whether Chinese citizens are allowed to see this hypocrisy or just take the People’s Daily’s word for it.

Thanks in advance.

5 Comments


  1. The page partially loaded for me twice, and on the third try died completely and immediately. My guess is that the report’s URL is not blocked, but that certain keywords in the article and the fact that they occurred under the .gov domain triggered the GFW.

    Quote | Posted February 12, 2007, 11:52 am

  2. Tried one more time and again it partially loaded. Going through Tor it works fine, as one would expect. Anyway, I’m not going to try any more via a direct connection out of fear that I may trigger one of those automatic temporary bans on my IP that the GFW punishes counterrevolutionaries with.

    Quote | Posted February 12, 2007, 11:58 am

  3. Thanks for the help, and don’t try too hard trying to get through.

    I’d still like to hear from others as well. I’ve also read that the US Federal Courts’ website (uscourts.gov) is blocked, so if anyone has the initiative, I’m curious about that as well, especially since part of the Chinese critique focuses on the US judicial system.

    Quote | Posted February 12, 2007, 12:44 pm

  4. It stopped for me here:

    “(WPA) for using psychiatric facilities to incarcerate political prisoners. During the year, a WPA delegation visited the country without reaching a consensus

    Administrative det”

    The reason that it stops loading in the middle is the great firewall sends a specially formed packet that tricks your computer into thinking the connection has been blocked. Where the page stops loading depends on how long it takes that “kill connection” packet to arrive at your computer.

    Quote | Posted February 15, 2007, 4:36 am

  5. @Wesley Tanaka

    Though it’s been a few weeks since you wrote I think it is still worth responding: I don’t think what you have said is entirely accurate.

    The GFW sends a “kill connection” packet when it is triggered. In the above case, the page starts loading before the GFW is triggered. My guess is that the GFW is then triggered by keywords within the page. It is only after this point that the “kill connection” packet is sent, which is why the page partially loads.

    Some sites, however, are completely blacklisted, such as Wikipedia and WordPress.com. For those sites, pages invariably timeout without even partially loading because the GFW is triggered and the “kill connection” packet is sent just by trying to access those sites.

    Quote | Posted March 9, 2007, 10:32 am

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Can You See This?

Those of you in China, I’d like to ask of you a small favor: is the below link accessible in the PRC?

Country Rep0rts on Human R1ghts Practices: China

I’m doing a report on the opposing view of that (Human R1ghts Record of the US in 2005) in which Beijing rips apart America’s supposed hypocrisy in criticizing the human r1ghts of other nations in spite of its own. I feel it’s worth knowing whether Chinese citizens are allowed to see this hypocrisy or just take the People’s Daily’s word for it.

Thanks in advance.

5 Comments


  1. The page partially loaded for me twice, and on the third try died completely and immediately. My guess is that the report’s URL is not blocked, but that certain keywords in the article and the fact that they occurred under the .gov domain triggered the GFW.

    Quote | Posted February 12, 2007, 11:52 am

  2. Tried one more time and again it partially loaded. Going through Tor it works fine, as one would expect. Anyway, I’m not going to try any more via a direct connection out of fear that I may trigger one of those automatic temporary bans on my IP that the GFW punishes counterrevolutionaries with.

    Quote | Posted February 12, 2007, 11:58 am

  3. Thanks for the help, and don’t try too hard trying to get through.

    I’d still like to hear from others as well. I’ve also read that the US Federal Courts’ website (uscourts.gov) is blocked, so if anyone has the initiative, I’m curious about that as well, especially since part of the Chinese critique focuses on the US judicial system.

    Quote | Posted February 12, 2007, 12:44 pm

  4. It stopped for me here:

    “(WPA) for using psychiatric facilities to incarcerate political prisoners. During the year, a WPA delegation visited the country without reaching a consensus

    Administrative det”

    The reason that it stops loading in the middle is the great firewall sends a specially formed packet that tricks your computer into thinking the connection has been blocked. Where the page stops loading depends on how long it takes that “kill connection” packet to arrive at your computer.

    Quote | Posted February 15, 2007, 4:36 am

  5. @Wesley Tanaka

    Though it’s been a few weeks since you wrote I think it is still worth responding: I don’t think what you have said is entirely accurate.

    The GFW sends a “kill connection” packet when it is triggered. In the above case, the page starts loading before the GFW is triggered. My guess is that the GFW is then triggered by keywords within the page. It is only after this point that the “kill connection” packet is sent, which is why the page partially loads.

    Some sites, however, are completely blacklisted, such as Wikipedia and WordPress.com. For those sites, pages invariably timeout without even partially loading because the GFW is triggered and the “kill connection” packet is sent just by trying to access those sites.

    Quote | Posted March 9, 2007, 10:32 am

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